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Article interessant, pleins de doutes sur la strategie, et qui semble indiqué qu ils sont bien a la recherche d 'argent pour payer le plan d' Enzo Chapman...

http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3200.asp?id=14787


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article le plus documente que j ai lu a ce jour.
super interessant pour ceux qui s interese a ce qui se tramme en coulisse...

http://www.aronline.co.uk/index.htm?blogs/2010/10/30/lotus-the-never-ending-proton-saga-continues


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Trouvé sur british piston

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Ce sont nos confrères anglais d'Autocar qui l'annoncent : Lotus planche actuellement sur le développement d'un seul modèle, la future grande GT de la marque chère à Colin Chapman. Une prochaine Esprit qui mérite de toute façon toute l'attention des ingénieurs de Lotus, elle qui devrait pouvoir rivaliser avec les meilleures supercars du monde forte de ses 620 chevaux, sortis d'un V8 Lexus largement revu en interne.
Quant aux autres concept-cars présentés à Paris, tout n'en serait pour l'instant qu'au stade du brainstorming entre designers et ingénieurs.

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L ami Bahar est deja clairement "under pressure".
il n a pas trouve l argent qu il souhaitait dans le prive, donc c est le gouvernement Malais qui devrait allonger, et ils sont pas super chaud.
il est en plus empetrer dans la bataille avec Tony fernandez concernant le team F1, et Fernandez etant quasi un "hero" an malaysie depuis sa reussite avec Air Asia, c etait pas hyper malin pour Bahar de se mettre mal avec lui....


The news that Lotus Racing is will be running in black and gold next year is a clear signal to anyone who cares to take notice that Tony Fernandes is not about to back down and accept being pushed out of the way by Group Lotus, no matter what the politicians in Malaysia want to see happening. Fernandes has invested around $120 million in the programme since it kicked off in the summer of 2009 and he clearly feels that he was the man who made it happen and that Group Lotus is trying to not only elbow him out of the way, but also claim the Team Lotus heritage, to which Fernandes believes it has no right at all. It would be outrageous if Team Lotus were to state a claim to have invented the Lotus Seven or the Lotus Elite road cars, but this is, in effect, what Group Lotus is trying to do, by trying to own the history of the team.

It is clear that Fernandes has a very strong case in the matter of the right to use the Team Lotus name. The Malaysian government must know this but it cannot buy the name from David Hunt and his partners because Fernandes got there first (again) and that deal is completed. In the circumstances it makes little sense for Group Lotus to do anything other than trying to work with Fernandes, rather than blindly supporting Group Lotus’s Dany Bahar. The Turkish-Swiss marketing man has a vision for Group Lotus which must seem very attractive to the Malaysians, but he is not an automobile industry expert and those who are doubt that his plan for the group is realistic. If the money being risked is private investment then that is fine, but there are increasing suggestions that Bahar did not manage to secure the funding that he hoped to have and that the funding of Group Lotus is coming from the Malaysian government, even if this may have been raised as loans from banks. Loans have to be repaid at some point and if Lotus does not bring in the money, it is the government which will have to use taxpayers’ money to balance the books. If this is the case then the politicians are facing the possibility that they will be attacked for gambling with taxpayers’ money. There have been some rumours in recent days suggesting that Bahar recognises that he is in a weak position in this respect and is looking for money in the Middle East. The more money he can raise, the less exposed he is to the whims of the politicians. They are obviously not keen on admitting that they have made a mistake and so will support Bahar until he gives them a reason not to, so the Group Lotus boss must be careful not to make too many mistakes in case they decided that they can justify dumping him.

The loss of the Team Lotus case in the High Court might provide such an opportunity. The other problem that could arise is that Fernandes could challenge Bahar’s right to terminate the licence agreement that he had with Group Lotus. This was a five-year deal and was by all accounts terminated on very flimsy grounds. Given the level of investment made, Fernandes would probably have a decent case if he chose to challenge the cancellation of the licence, which could provide another embarrassment.

There are also questions about the wisdom of doing a three-year $20 million a year sponsorship deal with Renault F1, when there is a risk that the cars will never be called Lotuses. Rushing into such an arrangement might seem the right thing to do given the Bahar timeline for Group Lotus, but it leaves no options when it comes to negotiating settlements with Fernandes. Even if he is pressured into giving up the Lotus name, there are other teams that would probably only support a name change from Renault to Lotus if Renault agreed to lose its historical payments, which would then be redistributed.

In the last few days there have been suggestions that Bahar’s plan was to switch from British Racing Green, which he has used this year in IndyCar, to the black and gold that is associated with Team Lotus. This would also have worked for Renault F1 because the switch from yellow and black to gold and black is not a huge move. Thus announcing a black and gold livery for 2011 Fernandes has probably thrown another spanner in Bahar’s works, perhaps unwittingly as he too is looking for a way to distinguish himself from Group Lotus.


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